Where is consciousness?

WHERE IS CONSCIOUSNESS?
Why we haven’t found it in the brain
after so many years of searching

 

February 21, 2026

Preface
Why Do We Believe What We Believe?

Will Rogers once said something like, “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.”

That could be the theme of this paper.

I was born in 1935. Since then, I’ve seen many things change — most notably my mind.

We lived in Chicago, near beautiful Lake Michigan, but we didn’t swim much because we believed polio had something to do with water. When the polio vaccine arrived, it was a miracle. Children no longer died or lived inside iron lungs. We lined up and rolled up our sleeves.

Today, polio has nearly vanished in America — and some people believe the vaccines that saved millions now cause autism.

Polio still exists in parts of the world. Belief still matters.

As a child, I suffered from allergies. I visited the doctor every month for allergy shots that did nothing. I kept going because I believed the doctor. He told me I had “rose fever,” which was supposedly different from hay fever. I believed him.

When we exercised, we didn’t drink water. We believed drinking during exercise caused cramps.

The “best” gasoline was called “ethyl.” It contained lead and poisoned millions of people as the lead poured from tailpipes. We wanted it. We trusted it. We believed it was superior.

Why do we believe?

Our senses tell us. Authorities tell us. We read it. We hear it. Or it simply feels logical. But Einstein showed that time passes differently depending on speed and gravity. Quantum mechanics tells us that particles can behave in ways that defy ordinary
logic.

Our senses can fail us. Our intuition can fail us. Even our certainty can fail us.

You and I are about to go on a ride of discovery. We are going to examine something we long have treated as invisible and immaterial — something we assume is private and mysterious — and ask whether it is physical after all.

Conversely, we will examine things we treat as solid and unquestionable — and ask whether they are illusions. Learning, in the end, is nothing more than changing one’s mind.

This paper may challenge things you feel certain about. I struggled with many of them myself.

But if you are willing to look carefully — not skeptically, not defensively, just carefully — I suspect you may find what I found.

And even if you don’t, the journey itself will be worth it.

Chapter 1 — Dismantling the Inner
If you can explain it with physics, don’t resort to magic.

You may not have thought about this, but you have a very creative brain — more creative than you may have imagined.

For centuries, consciousness has been treated as something mysterious and interior — a glowing private theater in which a self watches experience unfold. We speak of “qualia,” of an “inner world,” of a little observer behind the eyes. We speak of awareness as though it were a substance. We speak of being unconscious and conscious.

But none of these are necessary. What actually happens is simpler. Stimulus → response.

Imagine it’s a warm afternoon. Light strikes your retina. Your neurons fire. Your body shifts. Your memory activates. Your hormones adjust. Your predictions update.

There is no extra ingredient. No hidden witness appears. There is only structured change in response to stimulation.

If something changes state in response to a stimulus, it participates in what we call “consciousness” — not as a mystical property, but as a process.

Consciousness is not a thing you have. It’s not an inner glow. It’s not a private object. It’s the ongoing process of your stimulus–response updating.

This doesn’t trivialize consciousness. It universalizes it. Everything responds. A rock bears scars from impacts. A plant turns toward light. A bacterium adjusts to chemical gradients. An animal flees pain. A human writes philosophy.

The difference isn’t whether there is consciousness. There is. The difference is degree and integration.

What we call “higher” consciousness isn’t a different substance. It’s broader coordination. To describe that coordination, we introduce a term:

Global Pattern Recruitment (GPR).

When a stimulus activates only a narrow local circuit, the response is limited. But when activation spreads widely — recruiting memory, prediction, sensation, language, motor preparation, emotional weighting — the pattern becomes globally integrated.

Nothing magical has appeared. A pattern has simply become dominant across the system.

What we call “the self” is not an entity directing the process. It’s the experience that occurs when neural activity becomes globally recruited. Your “I” is the feeling generated when a dominant pattern integrates broadly enough to coordinate the organism.

No inner theater is necessary. A pattern becomes dominant. Your system labels it “I.” That is all.

When integration narrows — as in deep sleep, anesthesia, or certain forms of dementia — consciousness does not vanish into mystery. The stimulus–response process continues, but recruitment is reduced.

When recruitment becomes patchwork, identity appears “checkered.” As recruitment wanes, integration collapses, consciousness ebbs, and the organism begins to die.

Some researchers argue that consciousness cannot be reduced to integration alone. Others suggest that subjective experience — what philosophers call “qualia” — cannot be captured by structural accounts. Still others maintain that free will requires genuine indeterminacy or agency beyond physical law.

These positions have received serious consideration. But until a physical mechanism is demonstrated by which experience can exist outside structured responsiveness, the simpler account remains sufficient.

Science advances by explaining more with fewer assumptions. If stimulus → response integration accounts for what we observe, metaphysical entities are unnecessary.

The mechanism is clear and sufficient. We don’t need to invent “qualia.” We don’t need to devise a metaphysical self. We don’t need to find an inner spectator. We need only stimulus and structured response, integrated across time.

Chapter 2 — The Illusion of Control
Response is Not Optional

If consciousness is continuous stimulus→response updating, then control must also be reexamined.

We believe we choose. We feel we author our actions. But what actually occurs?

An external or internal stimulus reaches the brain or body, and the system responds. Memory activates. Competing response pathways recruit. Emotional weightings adjust. Predictions simulate possible outcomes. One integrated pattern becomes dominant. Action follows.

Afterward, the system labels the dominant pattern: “I chose.” But nothing stepped outside the chain. No uncaused origin appeared.

The feeling of control arises because human integration is deep and recursive. We simulate alternatives. We visualize counterfactuals. We imagine different futures. Those simulations create the impression that multiple paths are open in a metaphysical sense.

They aren’t. They are weighted possibilities within a structured system.

Free will, understood as action independent of prior causes, has no physical mechanism. Randomness doesn’t create freedom. Determinism doesn’t abolish complexity. Both remain within causal structure.

Motivation itself is stimulus-driven. Hunger, curiosity, ambition, and affection — all arise from prior states interacting with present conditions. Even the belief in determinism is part of the causal chain.

This doesn’t make us puppets. A puppet implies an external controller. There is no puppeteer. There’s only one constraint: geometry — structure responding to stimuli under physical law.

Responsibility, blame, morality — these too are responses. They are regulatory mechanisms evolved to stabilize groups. Punishment isn’t metaphysical retribution. It’s a stimulus inserted into the chain to modify future responses.

Truth-seeking is also survival-weighted. Accurate models improve prediction. Improved prediction enhances stability. But evolution selects for persistence under constraint, not for truth in a metaphysical sense. Truth survives when it enhances viability.

At every scale, the same pattern holds: Stimulus → response → structural update → new stimulus.

No step escapes causality. No self stands outside the process. Consciousness does not grant exemption from law. It’s the law operating in integrated form. Your decisions arise from the chain.

Chapter 3 — The Author You Think You Are
Your Decisions Feel Authored — But Arise from the Chain

Your decisions feel authored. You experience them as yours. You weigh alternatives. You hesitate. You commit.

It seems as though something stands apart from the machinery of your body and gives final approval.

Examine the sequence carefully. An external or internal stimulus reaches your brain or body, and your system responds. The stimulus may be a sound, a memory triggered by a smell, hunger, fatigue, irritation, or curiosity.

It alters neural activity. Signals propagate. Patterns activate. Competing networks recruit support.

Your memory contributes prior outcomes. Emotional systems supply weighting. Prediction simulates possible futures. You experience this integrated activity as thinking.

What occurs, however, is stimulus → response updating. A pattern strengthens. Another weakens. Eventually, one configuration becomes dominant.

When that dominant configuration spreads widely enough — recruiting sensation, memory, motor preparation, language, and emotional tone — it becomes globally integrated.

Earlier, we called this Global Pattern Recruitment (GPR). When a pattern reaches GPR, it coordinates the organism.

Your system then labels that dominant pattern: “I.” Not because a separate entity appeared. Not because something stepped outside causality. But because global integration produces unity.

Unity produces the impression of ownership. Ownership produces the impression of authorship. The system concludes: “I decided.”

Your decision arose from stimulus → response updating, shaped by structure, history, chemistry, and circumstance.

You may object: “But I consider alternatives. I could have done otherwise.”

Simulation of alternatives is real. It is part of the process. Based on prior structure and present input, your brain constructs multiple possible futures and compares them. That comparison produces the impression of open possibility.

But each simulated future is generated by a prior structure interacting with present conditions. The weighting of those simulations is not chosen by a separate observer. It emerges from integrated networks.

The most strongly weighted configuration becomes dominant. Your memory stores the outcome. The system narrates it. The narrative says, “I chose.”

Authorship is not an independent force. It is your system’s label for the dominant integrated pattern.

There is no hidden controller. There is only structure responding under physical law.

The feeling of authorship arises from the deep, recursive nature of human integration. The system can model itself modeling. That recursion produces the powerful sense of an inner commander.

Yet careful examination reveals only processes, signals, weighting, and integration. The “I” is your system’s designation for a globally recruited pattern.

Nothing more mysterious — and nothing less extraordinary.

This leads to the next question. If authorship is integration, and if consciousness is stimulus → response updating, can degrees of integration be measured?

If it can’t be measured, is it science?
Why Do We Believe What We Believe?

Chapter 4 — Degrees and Measurement
If It Can’t Ever be Measured, Is It Science?

If consciousness is integrated stimulus → response updating, then it cannot remain a poetic abstraction. It must be measurable in principle.

Measurement does not require perfection. Temperature was measurable long before molecules were understood. Gravity was measurable long before spacetime curvature was described. Science begins with approximations and improves its instruments over time.

The question is not whether we can measure consciousness with complete precision. The question is whether identifiable features of integration correspond to degrees of consciousness.

If everything responds to stimuli, then everything participates in consciousness to some degree. The difference between a bacterium and a human is not the presence or absence of consciousness, but the breadth, depth, and persistence of integration.

Several measurable dimensions follow from this framework.

Breadth of recruitment.
How widely does a stimulus propagate through a system? Does activation remain local, or does it recruit distributed networks? When recruitment becomes global, behavior becomes coordinated and flexible.

Quantity and differentiation.
How many distinct stimuli can the system discriminate, and how many distinct responses can it generate? A system that responds only to light and dark differs fundamentally from one that distinguishes faces, language, abstract symbols, and subtle emotional cues. Greater differentiation expands the range over which integration can occur.

Temporal depth.
How long does a response persist? Does the system merely react and reset, or does it modify future responsiveness? Memory is measurable. Persistence of state change is measurable. History dependence is measurable.

Flexibility of response.
How many distinct responses are available under similar conditions? A reflex arc produces limited variation. A system capable of simulation and abstraction can generate alternatives and compare them.

Stability under perturbation.
How does the system respond to disruption? Sleep, anesthesia, injury, and dementia reduce integration. Recovery restores it. These changes can be observed and quantified.

None of these measures captures an inner glow. They capture integration dynamics.

We should not expect a single scalar number labeled “consciousness.” Integration is multidimensional. So are its measurements.

Current neuroscience already measures connectivity, signal complexity, metabolic activity, and behavioral variability. These are imperfect proxies, but they attempt to quantify integration rather than mystery.

If consciousness cannot, even in principle, be related to measurable integration and response patterns, then it is not a scientific concept. It becomes a metaphor.

But if integrated responsiveness can be observed, compared, and quantified — even crudely — then consciousness re-enters science without magic.

We do not need perfect measurement. We need operational clarity.

When physicians assess consciousness, they do not search for a soul. They test responsiveness.

They observe whether a patient is responsive, minimally conscious, unresponsive, vegetative, or locked-in. These distinctions are not metaphysical. They are operational. They reflect degrees of integrated responsiveness to stimulation.

The medical vocabulary already assumes what the framework here makes explicit: consciousness varies with the system’s capacity to integrate and respond.

The same structure operates at every level.

Chapter 5 — Scaling the Pattern
The same structure operates at every level.

If consciousness is integrated stimulus → response updating, then the distinction between “living” and “non-living,” or between “individual” and “collective,” becomes less mysterious.

The mechanism does not change. Only the scale changes.

A bacterium responds to chemical gradients. A plant responds to light and moisture. An animal responds to threats and opportunities. A human responds to language, memory, abstraction, and prediction.

In each case, a stimulus produces a structured response. The difference lies in the breadth, differentiation, temporal depth, flexibility, and stability of integration.

Nothing in this description requires a sharp boundary where consciousness suddenly appears. What changes is degree and organization.

The same logic applies beyond the individual organism.

A group responds to economic pressure. A market responds to information. A legal system responds to disruption. A culture responds to threat, innovation, and internal conflict.

In each case, stimuli propagate through networks. Responses emerge from interaction. Patterns stabilize or dissolve. Structures update.

This is not a metaphor. It is a process.

A society does not possess a hidden mind. But it exhibits integrated responsiveness across distributed components. Information spreads. Feedback loops amplify or dampen signals. Decisions emerge from the interaction among agents, shaped by prior structures.

The scale increases. The mechanism does not. Integration at higher scales is slower, more diffuse, and more fragile. But it remains stimulus → response updating across time.

This scaling reframes long-standing debates.

Instead of asking whether a group “has consciousness,” we ask: How integrated is its responsiveness? How quickly does information propagate? How stable are its feedback mechanisms? How flexible are its responses under constraint?

The same dimensions used to assess individual integration apply to systems: The amount and breadth of recruitment across networks. Differentiation of informational channels.Temporal persistence of structural change. Flexibility under new conditions. Stability under disruption.

When integration collapses, systems fragment. When feedback becomes distorted, responses misalign with conditions. When adaptation fails, structures dissolve.

There is no separate law for individuals and collectives. There is only structured responsiveness at different scales.

Chapter 6 –The Pattern Holds.
Survival and Time

What persists is what has worked — so far.

At every scale, systems respond to stimuli. Some responses stabilize structure. Others destabilize it. Over time, the difference matters.

Structures that fail to adapt dissolve. Structures that maintain coherence persist — for a while. There is no cosmic referee. No final safeguard. No guarantee that larger systems are wiser than smaller ones.

The same mechanism that produces integration also produces collapse.

Dinosaurs responded successfully for millions of years. Then the constraints changed. Civilizations respond to pressure. Sometimes they adjust. Sometimes they amplify their own instability.

Truth does not survive because it is morally superior. It survives when it enhances predictive accuracy and structural stability. Morality does not persist because it is sacred. It persists when it regulates behavior in ways that stabilize groups.

Survival is not a moral achievement. It is a structural outcome. And it is always temporary.

Survival operates at multiple levels simultaneously. An individual may thrive while a group destabilizes. A group may consolidate power while undermining the larger system on which it depends. What persists at one scale may weaken at another.

There is no privileged level built into nature. Selection occurs wherever structure interacts with constraint.

Generosity may appear costly at the individual level but stabilizing at the group level. Aggression may strengthen short-term dominance while eroding long-term cohesion. The effects are not moral; they are structural.

What works depends on context.

A response that preserves structure under one set of conditions may fail under another. Dinosaurs did not disappear because they were inferior. They disappeared because conditions changed.

The same holds for human systems. Integration can produce resilience, but it can also amplify error. When feedback becomes distorted, responses may reinforce instability rather than correct it.

Survival does not imply truth, virtue, or wisdom. It implies only that the system has not yet dissolved.

Time is the final constraint. Some structures persist for minutes. Others endure for centuries. A few survive for millions of years. None are exempt from change.

What persists is what has worked — so far.

Chapter 7 — Living Inside the Chain
Understanding does not diminish experience.

We do not step outside the chain. We are the chain in motion. Understanding this does not reduce us. It clarifies us.

For centuries, we searched for something behind the machinery — a soul, a self, a hidden author who stood apart from the body and gave final approval. We assumed that meaning required exemption from physical law.

It does not.

Experience doesn’t disappear when its structure is understood. Love doesn’t weaken when we recognize its integration. Awe doesn’t fade when we see the networks that produce it. Humor, grief, desire, curiosity — none of these depend on a ghost.

Mechanism doesn’t diminish experience. It explains it.

When you feel affection, it isn’t less real because it arises from neural activity. When you feel responsibility, it isn’t less consequential because it emerges from prior causes. Causation doesn’t trivialize experience. It makes experience possible.

The illusion was not that we feel. The illusion was that feeling required exemption from structure.

We do not author ourselves from outside the system. We don’t float above constraints. We are shaped by history, biology, culture, memory, and circumstance. And within those constraints, integration unfolds.

This does not make us puppets. A puppet implies a puppeteer. There is no hidden hand. There is only structure interacting with structure across time.

Language sometimes obscures this. We speak of someone as “unconscious,” as though consciousness were a substance that could vanish.

In practice, we mean reduced responsiveness. Sleep narrows integration. Anesthesia dampens coordination. Injury fragments recruitment. There’s no sharp metaphysical boundary where consciousness switches off. There are only degrees of integration.

Unless responsiveness falls to zero — which is indistinguishable from nonexistence — consciousness is never simply absent. It’s diminished, constrained, or reorganized.

The same holds for agency. We speak of control as though it were absolute. In reality, it’s a structured influence within constraints.

We can’t choose our past. We can’t step outside causality. But we remain complex nodes within it. Integration allows modeling, simulation, adjustment, and adaptation. These capacities don’t free us from law; they express it.

At larger scales, the pattern continues. Systems respond. Structures stabilize or dissolve. Survival filters outcomes. Nothing is guaranteed. Nothing is protected by cosmic design.

Yet none of this is cause for despair. Clarity isn’t coldness. It is discovery.

We no longer need to search for a hidden observer. We no longer need to defend a metaphysical freedom. We no longer need to invent mysteries where structure suffices.

The mystery was never that we are mechanisms. The mystery is that a sufficiently complex mechanism can produce memory, imagination, attachment, creativity, and coherence across time.

We are not less because we are structured. We are intelligible. We are structured responses shaped by history and constraint — and that is our path to understanding.

The title question was, “Where is Consciousness?” That answer: It’s in your brain and body. It’s in the complex stimuli that affect every living and non-living thing. Like gravity, consciousness is everywhere, and also like gravity, it can be measured. It is something you feel, not just in your imagination but in every inch of you that responds to stimuli. 

Consciousness is stimulus→response. No magic there.

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8 thoughts on “Where is consciousness?

  1. So if the wind blows a hat off my head, and the hat flies away, the hat is conscious? Stimulus- Response?
    So if your body dies from being hit by a car, your body is still conscious? Give us a break!
    Where you got this idea from I cannot even imagine! A coin on one side of a sheet of paper moves because a magnet on the other side of the sheet is making it move, therefore it is concious? Nothing but snake oil. You can con some of the people all of the time, and you can con all of the people some of the time. But, you cannot con all of the people all of the time. That is virtually impossible.
    So, you might say I am concious because I respond to your posts, you would be right. Woooooooo!

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    1. Rawgod,

      I understand your doubts, which I also had had, until I began investigating.

      The February edition of Scientific American Magazine contains an article titled, “The Hardest Problem In Science,” in which the author lists 29 theories of consciousness. (29!)

      After introducing us to the “hardest problem in science, he tells us why it is the hardest in one succinct phrase: ” . . .researchers can’t even agree on what it is . . .”

      In the post “Struggles with consciousness, will power, and other things not understood – #Monetary Sovereignty – Mitchell” I pose three questions related to consciousness:

      Is this conscious?” “Why or why not?” “If it is conscious, how conscious is it? That is, how is consciousness measured?” and I ask readers to apply those questions to the following list:

      1. An awake, adult human
      2. A sleeping human
      3. An “unconscious” human
      4. A  newborn human
      5. A human fetus
      6. A brain-dead living human
      7. A corpse
      8. A chimpanzee
      9. A dog
      10. A bee
      11. An ant
      12. A tree
      13. A bacterium
      14. A virus
      15. An atom
      16. A rock
      17. A flame
      18. A cloud
      19. The earth
      20. The universe 

      Try to answer those three questions with regard to the 20 examples. Do it with several of your smartest friends. Let me know what you decided about each of the 20 examples. I’ll assume #1 is agreed to be conscious. Why or why not? How conscious is it (i.e. how is it measured?)

      What about the other 19?

      I’ll publish your response.

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      1. I will start with what I have come to understand from experience, observation, listening, and perceiving: all living things are conscious, no non-living thing is conscious. But can I give you a definition? No, because you cannot fathom that which is unfathomable on our plane of existence. But I can and will give you my perception of consciousness: it is the gift life gives to all things that are created through mitosis, meiosis, or a combination of the two (or any other process of reproduction that is beyond my range of perception). Other “requirements” include birth (or some kind of coming into being), growth, the ability to reproduce, and eventually death. (MRS GREN presupposes other requirements, but those things are not needed by me. I’m just a regular guy, with a simple non-scientific education; I will leave the other requirements to them.) That is my definition of life — and living things are conscious or at least capable of consciousness, or might I say, to perceive and choose.
        And it is the ability to choose which is my dilemma in differentiating bacteria from viruses. I have watched bacteria through a microscope, and the ones I have seen all demonstrated they can change their direction according to their own perceptions of their environments. Viruses obviously live, move, change from their “mother,” and die. But from what I am told about them, they seem to go only to where they can live in the best possible environment — which probably requires some form of consciousness,but maybe not.
        But getting back to basics, you may have noticed, or not, I have not used the term “level of consciousness.” To look for levels of consciousness is in my view anthropocentric, meaning human-originated. No other beings but humans believe themselves to be “more conscious, read intelligent,” than other beings, but that is not true. Consciousness, like its twin life, is neither here nor there. Are we more alive than a plankton? No. We are what we are, and nothing else.
        Now, about where consciousness resides. Animal beings, 8ncluding us, from my experience, seem to feel their consciousness in our/their heads. Being a partner of many cat beings, and a few dog beings, along the way, at some point in their lives, will prefer to be touched only on the head. This usually happens early in life, but as they gain experience they grow or change and want their entire body touched and petted. Of course, some never go through that phase, they start out wanting to be touched everywhere it feels good to them.

        Now, why do I exclude non-living things from consciousness. They are already here, whether humans or other beings may or may may not use them. They do not grow or change without external forces. A rock on an incline cannot choose to roll down an incline or not. Without outside forces it will stay in that place forever. Non-living things cannot choose to respond to a stimulus, nor can they choose to not respond to a stimulus strong enough to force them to roll down the incline. Whether it be gravity, or a force set upon it by a living being or a magnet on certain metals, non-living things do not move (even though the electrons in them move). A non-living thing cannot react, but it can and will respond to an outside force.
        Now, for a bit of real experience about consciousness. It is not an uncommon experience for a person in certain states to relate that during surgery they felt like they were looking down on their bodies on the surgery table. Please note: no one ever experiences looking up at themselves above them. They always look down. This happened to me. During a long and arduous surgery my body was not conscious due to anesthtics injected into me. I had no idea what was happening to me. But suddenly I felt myself floating upwards, and when I figuratively opened my eyes, I could see surgeons and nurses hovering around my cut open body. Now, I have not talked to anyone else who had such an experience, but there are numerous people who tell such tales. If I could talk to them I would ask how long their experience lasted. So what I am going to say next is from my experience and only my experience: after the initial shock of floating up, I did not immediately return to my body. This was fascinating. There “I” was, looking down on my body — and I was conscious of being there. I remained floating till I saw them putting stitches and steristrips on the incision they had been working through. At that time I felt I was being drawn back into my body, and I did not resist. It was that experience that made me “conscious of my consciousness.” And I started to watch myself being myself, and it is through that experience I learned how to change my being, not physically or even mentally, but… (Note: I am going to use a word that has many meanings, none of which reference the way I will use it because I know no other word for it.)
        The word is spiritually, because that is the only word I know in the English language that comes close to my initial experience, and my further life progression. I DO NOT mean religiously (I am an atheist, in the most simple definition of the word.) I learned how to change the “me” in me. I am now a person who appreciates being alive, and accepts all other forms of life that agrees with my definition. I am not scared of any other animal than human beings. And even then I am not scared of anyone in the microcosm of my life but I am scared of those people who seek power for their own uses, or those who control and support them. Examples, people like Hitler, and Donald J. Trump. Not that this has anything to do with either consciousness or who I am now, but who knows what side of MAGAtry I might have been on had I not chosen who I consciously wanted to be, the kind of man I have become purposely.
        And the other reason I brought up the surgery experience I had, my consciousness was not in my body, but it was with me as I looked down on myself. Other things have happened in my life that reference spirituality, but you would probably not believe them, whether or not you choose to believe or not the experience I just related, and if you choose or not to interpret the experience as I interpreted it.

        The subject of consciousness is one that cannot be properly explained in such a short piece of writing, but I hope I have gone into enough so you know I am not just blowing shit out of my ass.
        I cannot reject my own experience, no matter what you or scientists choose to believe. Life is not just a meaningless condition, and neither is consciousness. And consciousness is a part of living, because without consciousness we are nothing.
        European-based societies love science, but I choose to ignore science in areas that are outside the bounds of science. I do not believe in God or gods or ghosts or ghouls or vampires, etc. But I do believe in life, and everything that comes with it. I and only that I have consciousness, and the tablet I am writing this on does not.
        William Shakespeare said though his character Hamlet, “There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in our philosophy.” Shakespeare was not a scientist. He was an artist. Science does not make us human, artistry does.
        And so it goes.

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        1. Thank you for your comprehensive explanation. I completely agree with you that all living things are conscious.

          I’m curious about one thing. Though you did say, “All living things are conscious.” You also said, “During a long and arduous surgery my body was not conscious due to anesthetics injected into me.” So, you were alive but not conscious, while, for instance, a tree is alive and the bacteria in you were conscious?

          The purpose of the post was to eliminate the mystical and to treat consciousness in a scientific manner. But, you also said, ” . . . you cannot fathom that which is unfathomable on our plane of existence.” I’m not sure what my “plane of existence” is, but it doesn’t sound very scientific to me.

          Finally, though it is “unfathomable,” and you “cannot define it,” you are quite certain that stimulus —>response is wrong.

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          1. I am not saying stimulus/response is wrong, living beings respond to stimuli all the time, However, non-living things will always respond to a particular stimulus in exactly the same way. They cannot respond in any other way and they must respond in exactly that way. Thre is no choice or growth or reasoning in the rock on the incline. In living beings there is always choice, including the choice not to respond to a stimulus.
            Watch a bug moving through a garden. We do not know why the bug is moving through that garden (no definition) but yet we can interact with that bug. Place a small stick in front of its path. A few will stop, possibly fall asleep. Others will climb over the stick, and others yet will turn left, right, or back to where it came. The possibilities are endless, but no bug will always respond the same way to every encounter with the same stimulus without further stimuli being involved, like unbreakable parametters as in a science experiment. Experiments can take choices away, even cause the bugs to respond in a similar each time the stimuli are applied, but that proves nothing about free will or stimulus/response. All it means is that the scientist running the experiment has created an environment that can only be handled one way. This takes away free will, which is an Inherent piece of consciousness/life.
            As for the surgery experience, the near-death body on the table has no consiousness at that time. The consciousness of me was where I was situated to be, above the table looking down,,, watching.
            The real question is what was the “I” consciousncss contained in? I never actually looked to see myself or any part of myself. Yet, having said that, I had the feeling that everything that was “me” was above the table, not on it. Therefore, it must be concluded body and consciousness are not necessarily the same thing or being. The tendency is definitely predominantly consciousness intertwined in the body, but yet is apart from it. This, again for lack of a better word, is what I call spirit, as in the spirit of life, which is consicousness.
            Yes, trees are conscious. Do they sleep or are they always aware of their being? I don’t know, but this is not pertinent to this discussion. It is just an interesting aside.
            I presume you want me to touch on consciousness while asleep. Normal sleep, that is. When we first fall asleep we seem to be unconscious. According to science , humans need to reach a certain level of sleep before REM sleep is attained and we become capable of dreaming. I do hope you are a dreamer (Some people have no memory of having dreams at times in their lives, so my next statement will be conditional on being a dreamer.) Who is doing the dreaming? Is it our consciousness, or is it just random bursts of energy passing through the brain?
            Here is where I am again different from most people. Because of certain medical issues, and a lifelong propensity to not need much sleep (though that has changed in my senior years), I immediately fall into REM sleep if that is necessarily required to dream, or I can dream without REM sleep. I have never been tested to see which is which.
            But I do know that I dream a lot, and that some dreams remain in my memory when I am awake.
            Here I do not know how others dream or what they remember of being in dream sleep. Some dreams I remember while awake, many I don’t remember, and others yet I have no memory of. I presume that is the same with most people. But how many people have taught themselves to watch their dreams like they are sitting in a movie theatre. For 50 years I watched my dreams even though I was usually a particiant in said dreams. That possibly is why I remembered all my dreams for a lengthy period of time. Then a concussion wiped those abilities out of my brain. Now I still dream, but my memory of them is not as good as pre-concussion times.
            What has all that to do with consciousness. It tells me that my brain is always working, and here is where I can believe there are levels of consciousness within individual beings. It certainly seems that way.
            I probably have not answered all your questions, but I am getting sleepy. I need rest.

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          2. What’s up, Rodger. You posted about the brain/body union this morning. An interesting read. But I cannot find it on your blog or on Word Press, for that matter. I would like to have a conversation about it, but it seems to have been taken down. I cannot reply.

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  2. Thank you Rawgod, for your response. You said, “During a long and arduous surgery my body was not conscious“. What did you mean by that, considering that you also said that all living things are conscious? If a tree is conscious and a bug is conscious is, for example, a heart or liver conscious? Why? Again, thank you for your thoughts.

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